Legislature(2009 - 2010)CAPITOL 120

01/25/2010 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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01:02:21 PM Start
01:02:50 PM HB298
03:02:09 PM Adjourn
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*+ HB 298 SEX OFFENSES; OFFENDER REGIS.; SENTENCING TELECONFERENCED
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       HB 298 - SEX OFFENSES; OFFENDER REGIS.; SENTENCING                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:02:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO.   298,  "An  Act  relating  to   the  crimes  of                                                               
harassment, possession of child  pornography, and distribution of                                                               
indecent material  to a minor; relating  to suspending imposition                                                               
of sentence  and conditions  of probation  or parole  for certain                                                               
sex  offenses; relating  to  aggravating  factors in  sentencing;                                                               
relating to  registration as a  sex offender or  child kidnapper;                                                               
amending  Rule  16,  Alaska  Rules  of  Criminal  Procedure;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:05:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DANIEL S.  SULLIVAN, Acting Attorney  General, Department  of Law                                                               
(DOL),  said  that   HB  298  is  just  one  of   the  steps  the                                                               
administration  is  taking  to  address  the  problem  of  sexual                                                               
assault  and  domestic violence  (DV)  in  Alaska.   Among  other                                                               
things, HB  298 would prohibit  suspended imposition  of sentence                                                               
(SIS) for those  convicted of the crimes of  human trafficking in                                                               
the first  and second degree, distribution  of child pornography,                                                               
possession  of child  pornography, and  distribution of  indecent                                                               
materials  to minors;  would  make  it a  crime  to access  child                                                               
pornography  on a  computer with  the intention  of viewing  it -                                                               
this  is in  response to  an Alaska  Court of  Appeals ruling  in                                                               
Worden  V. State,  213 p.3d  144 (Alaska  APP. 2009),  which held                                                             
that current law  does not prohibit viewing  child pornography on                                                               
a  computer;  would provide  the  courts  with the  authority  to                                                               
prohibit sex  offenders, in cases involving  children, from using                                                               
a computer  or communicating with  children under the age  of 16;                                                               
would  provide  for  enhanced   sentencing,  via  an  aggravating                                                               
factor,  for crimes  that involve  victims  incapacitated due  to                                                               
alcohol or  drugs; and would  require those who must  register in                                                               
other  states  as a  sex  offender  or  child kidnapper  to  also                                                               
register  in Alaska  regardless of  whether the  law under  which                                                               
they were convicted is similar to Alaska law.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN emphasized  that most if not all                                                               
of the provisions in HB 298  were developed by those on the front                                                               
line  at the  DOL, and  address weaknesses  in current  law.   In                                                               
conclusion, he  again said  that HB  298 is  [part of]  a strong,                                                               
comprehensive  foundation,   but  is  not  the   last  word,  and                                                               
expressed a  willingness to  work with  the committee  to improve                                                               
the bill and the administration's  other efforts towards stopping                                                               
sexual  assault  and  DV  in  Alaska,  protecting  citizens,  and                                                               
bringing perpetrators to justice.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:17:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOSEPH  A. MASTERS,  Commissioner,  Department  of Public  Safety                                                               
(DPS), added that the DPS has  worked closely with the Council on                                                               
Domestic  Violence  and Sexual  Assault  (CDVSA)  and the  Alaska                                                               
Network  on  Domestic  Violence  &  Sexual  Assault  (ANDVSA)  on                                                               
preparing [legislation] to address  the problem of sexual assault                                                               
and DV in Alaska, which currently  has the highest rate of sexual                                                               
assault and DV in the nation; women  in Alaska are two and a half                                                               
times more  likely to be  raped, with certain  communities having                                                               
an even  far higher rate,  and children  in Alaska are  six times                                                               
more  likely to  be  sexually exploited.    Specifically, HB  298                                                               
focuses on offender  accountability, and would give  the DPS some                                                               
extra  tools  with which  to  deal  with offenders  and  would-be                                                               
offenders, thereby making Alaskans safer.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS  asked that statistics be  provided comparing Alaska                                                               
with other states with similar  populations, as well as a further                                                               
breakdown of  the potential  costs and  potential results  of the                                                               
proposed legislation,  so as  to be better  able to  quantify the                                                               
problem.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  MASTERS agreed  to do  so, adding  that in  Alaska,                                                               
every  year,   the  Division  of  Alaska   State  Troopers  alone                                                               
investigates between  800-1,000 cases wherein women  and children                                                               
have been sexually assaulted.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG - referring  to Section 15, specifically                                                               
the language of proposed AS  12.63.100(6)(D) - questioned whether                                                               
the  term,  "jurisdiction"  as   used  therein  means  both  U.S.                                                               
jurisdictions and foreign jurisdictions.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:29:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNE  CARPENETI,  Assistant   Attorney  General,  Legal  Services                                                               
Section, Criminal Division, Department  of Law (DOL), offered her                                                               
understanding that  it means just U.S.  jurisdictions, but agreed                                                               
to research the issue further.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  questioned whether the bill  also ought                                                               
to amend existing  AS 12.63.030(a) such that  when the department                                                               
notifies the Federal Bureau of  Investigation (FBI) and the state                                                               
a  [registered] sex  offender or  child kidnapper  is moving  to,                                                               
that   the   department   also  notify   the   "local   political                                                               
subdivision."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ACTING ATTORNEY  GENERAL SULLIVAN  agreed to research  that issue                                                               
further,  but surmised  that in  notifying a  state, one  is also                                                               
notifying its political subdivisions as well.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG pointed out  that sometimes there can be                                                               
a  gap   in  communications  between   a  state  and   its  local                                                               
subdivisions.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GATTO   questioned  whether   "bookmarking"   an                                                               
Internet web site that contains  child pornography is the same as                                                               
"downloading" it, since the person  would then have direct access                                                               
to it.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI surmised that the  representative from the Division                                                               
of Alaska State Troopers could better address that question.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:35:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL J.  STARK, Member, State  Board of Parole,  Department of                                                               
Corrections  (DOC), explained  that Sections  1 and  2 of  HB 298                                                               
were developed at  the request of the State Board  of Parole, and                                                               
are meant to correct an error  made when AS 11.56.759 was adopted                                                               
in 2007, making it crime  for parolees or probationers who'd been                                                               
convicted of sex  offenses to violate their  parole or probation.                                                               
That provision  was meant to  focus on probationers,  rather than                                                               
on parolees,  since probationers  face long periods  of probation                                                               
supervision.   He surmised  that parolees  were included  in that                                                               
2007  legislation simply  because probationers  and parolees  are                                                               
often  treated the  same.   However,  probationers  have part  of                                                               
their  sentence suspended  and, then,  once they've  served their                                                               
period of incarceration,  are supervised for a period  of time as                                                               
set by the courts - which can be  for as long as 25 years for sex                                                               
offenders -  whereas parolees, both mandatory  and discretionary,                                                               
are  supervised for  shorter periods  of  time and  are fewer  in                                                               
number.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. STARK  explained that originally, parolees  were not intended                                                               
to fall  under AS 11.56.759,  but because they were  included, an                                                               
unintended  consequence is  that attorneys  are now  advising sex                                                               
offender  parolees  not to  admit  parole  violations or  suspect                                                               
behavior to  their parole officers,  thus increasing the  risk to                                                               
the  public  that  the  sex  offenders  will  reoffend.    It  is                                                               
therefore important that the references  to parolees be taken out                                                               
of AS 11.56.759, just as Sections 1  and 2 of HB 298 propose.  In                                                               
response to a  question, he acknowledged that  in some instances,                                                               
an  offender can  be  both a  probationer and  a  parolee and  be                                                               
serving two different periods of  time concurrently.  In response                                                               
to  another  question,  he  said   AS  11.56.759  must  apply  to                                                               
probationers because  without it, if they  violate the conditions                                                               
of their probation, they can't  be prosecuted for that violation;                                                               
AS 11.56.759  provides probationers  with an incentive  to comply                                                               
with the conditions of their  probation, but, again, this doesn't                                                               
really apply to parolees.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. STARK,  in response to  a further question, pointed  out that                                                               
the Alaska State Constitution requires  that the State maintain a                                                               
parole  system, and  so combining  Alaska's probation  system and                                                               
parole system would not be feasible.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:47:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  explained that  Section 3 of  HB 298  rewrites the                                                               
crime  of  failure  to  register  as  a  sex  offender  or  child                                                               
kidnapper in  the second degree,  and is intended to  clarify the                                                               
elements  required,  and  address  a May  2009  Alaska  Court  of                                                               
Appeals case, Moffitt v. State,  wherein the court ruled that the                                                             
State must prove that the  defendant made a conscious, deliberate                                                               
decision not  to comply with the  law; for purposes of  the crime                                                               
of failure  to register as a  sex offender or child  kidnapper in                                                               
the second degree, under Section 3,  if the state proves that the                                                               
defendant   had  an   obligation  to   register,  knew   of  that                                                               
obligation, but didn't register, the  State would have proved the                                                               
commission of that  offense beyond a reasonable  doubt.  However,                                                               
Section  3   also  provides  for  an   affirmative  defense  that                                                               
unforeseen  circumstances outside  the  control of  the person  -                                                               
such as being  involved in an automobile accident,  for example -                                                               
prevented  him/her   from  registering,   and  that   the  person                                                               
immediately notified the DPS upon being able to do so.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI, in response to a  question, said that a person who                                                               
is required  to register must  notify the  DPS of any  changes in                                                               
residence by the  next business day, though some  leeway could be                                                               
given on a case-by-case basis.   Any delay longer than a few days                                                               
should  be taken  very  seriously by  the  prosecutor, since  the                                                               
whole  point of  sex offender  registration  is to  keep tabs  on                                                               
where  these  offenders are  so  that  folks  who live  near  the                                                               
offenders know it.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:50:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI  explained that  Section  4  amends the  crime  of                                                               
harassment  in  the first  degree,  and  addresses situations  in                                                               
which a perpetrator  gropes a person without  giving him/her time                                                               
to voice a lack  of consent.  There have been  a couple of recent                                                               
cases involving the crime of  sexual assault in the second degree                                                               
- which involves sexual contact,  i.e., touching - that have been                                                               
reduced  to the  crime of  harassment in  the second  degree -  a                                                               
class B misdemeanor  - because the conduct happened  so fast that                                                               
the court concluded that the  victim didn't have adequate time to                                                               
indicate a  lack of consent.   Section 4, therefore,  raises that                                                               
offense  - touching  sexual areas  of  the body  - to  a class  A                                                               
misdemeanor, harassment  in the first  degree.  She  relayed that                                                               
the DOL  would also be  providing a similar amendment  for sexual                                                               
abuse of a minor crimes, which  don't have an element of consent,                                                               
so  that  the  aforementioned  type  of  behavior  can  still  be                                                               
addressed without providing a lesser-included offense.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI  explained that  Section  5  amends the  crime  of                                                               
possession of child pornography - a  class C felony.  Again, this                                                               
is in  response to  Worden, wherein the  Alaska Court  of Appeals                                                             
held   that  current   law  does   not  prohibit   viewing  child                                                               
pornography  on  a  computer  if  the  perpetrator  doesn't  also                                                               
download it  or save  it somewhere  on the  computer.   She noted                                                               
that  a similar  problem with  federal law  was addressed  with a                                                               
similar amendment.   A  child is  still victimized  regardless of                                                               
whether  the  viewing  of  the child  pornography  occurs  via  a                                                               
computer or via printed matter, and  so Section 5 would make it a                                                               
crime to  access child  pornography with the  intent to  view it.                                                               
Section  6  amends the  penalty  provision  associated with  that                                                               
crime.  Section 7 provides  an affirmative offense for possession                                                               
of  child pornography;  this is  meant to  address concerns  that                                                               
sometimes computer viruses can make  such material appear without                                                               
the person having  taken any steps to  access it himself/herself.                                                               
In order  for a person  to use the proposed  affirmative defense,                                                               
he/she is required to have  contacted law enforcement immediately                                                               
and to not have shown the material to another person.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  explained that  Sections 8, 9,  and 10  expand the                                                               
crime of electronic distribution  of indecent materials to minors                                                               
such that  the distribution  of indecent  materials to  minors by                                                               
any means  would also be  prohibited; such  distribution, whether                                                               
via computer or via other  means, is classic "grooming" behavior.                                                               
Section 11,  again, provides that  those convicted of  the crimes                                                               
of   human  trafficking   in  the   first   and  second   degree,                                                               
distribution   of   child   pornography,  possession   of   child                                                               
pornography,  and distribution  of indecent  materials to  minors                                                               
would be precluded from receiving SIS.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS,  referring to Section  11, noted that an  SIS might                                                               
be appropriate in cases where the perpetrator is a minor.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:56:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI pointed out, however,  that the offenses Section 11                                                               
would  apply  to  are  class  B  and  C  felonies,  which  cannot                                                               
automatically be waived  to adult court, and  so the perpetrators                                                               
of  those  crimes  who  are  minors would  still  be  treated  as                                                               
juveniles,  and   the  prosecution  of  juveniles   is  extremely                                                               
different  from  the  prosecution  of adults,  allowing  for  the                                                               
adjustment of cases.  She then  explained that Section 12 - which                                                               
repeals  and  reenacts  AS   12.55.100(e)  -  adds  discretionary                                                               
conditions of probation  for those convicted of a  sex offense in                                                               
that when  setting the conditions  of probation, the  court could                                                               
require such  defendants to provide their  probation officer with                                                               
"each  electronic mail  address, instant  messaging address,  and                                                               
other  Internet  communication  identifier" that  the  defendants                                                               
use;  current law  already mandates  that  submitting to  regular                                                               
periodic  polygraph   examinations  shall   be  a   condition  of                                                               
probation for those who've been convicted of a sex offense.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG, referring  to  the existing  statutory                                                               
provision mandating that  regular periodic polygraph examinations                                                               
be  a condition  of  probation  for someone  convicted  of a  sex                                                               
offense,  questioned whether  discussing  potential other  crimes                                                               
during  such  an  examination  would  violate  his/her  privilege                                                               
against self incrimination.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI,   noting  that   the  bill  doesn't   alter  that                                                               
provision, relayed that  she would discuss that  issue further at                                                               
a later  time.   She then  explained that  Section 13  amends the                                                               
aggravating   factor   pertaining   to  a   victim's   particular                                                               
vulnerability   or  incapacity   to   resist,   to  include   the                                                               
consumption of  alcohol or drugs  as a reason for  the particular                                                               
vulnerability  or incapacity;  this aggravating  factor could  be                                                               
applied  for  any  crime  wherein  the  victim  was  particularly                                                               
vulnerable or incapacitated, and is not limited to sex offenses.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:59:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI   explained  that   Section  14  adopts   two  new                                                               
aggravating factors:   one that could apply for  crimes against a                                                               
person - AS  11.41 - when the perpetrator had  a dating or sexual                                                               
relationship with  the victim; and  one that could apply  for the                                                               
crime of  sexual abuse of a  minor in the second  degree under AS                                                               
11.41.436(a)(2)  - a  person  16  years of  age  or older  having                                                               
sexual  contact  with  a  child  under 13  years  old  -  if  the                                                               
defendant is 18  years old or older.  She  indicated that the DOL                                                               
would  like  to  have  the  latter  proposed  aggravating  factor                                                               
expanded -  via a proposed  forthcoming amendment - such  that it                                                               
could also apply if the perpetrator  of that crime is 10 years or                                                               
more older  than the victim.   The rationale behind this  is that                                                               
it is  significantly more serious for  a person of mature  age to                                                               
participate in sexual abuse of  a minor crimes, particularly when                                                               
there is  a large difference  in age between the  perpetrator and                                                               
the victim.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI explained  that Section 15 would  require those who                                                               
must register in  other jurisdictions as a sex  offender or child                                                               
kidnapper to also  register in Alaska [regardless  of whether the                                                               
law under  which they were  convicted is similar to  Alaska law].                                                               
The  DPS's sex  offender  administration, she  relayed, has  been                                                               
getting  phone  calls, fairly  regularly,  from  people in  other                                                               
states  who are  questioning  whether they  would  still have  to                                                               
register if they  move to Alaska.  No one  wants Alaska to become                                                               
a safe  haven for sex  offenders and child kidnappers  from other                                                               
states  just  because  Alaska  doesn't have  a  statute  that  is                                                               
substantially similar to the laws  under which those perpetrators                                                               
were convicted, and Section 15 would alleviate that concern.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  explained that Section  16 mirrors federal  law in                                                               
that the copying  of child pornography as a part  of discovery in                                                               
a  criminal  prosecution  would  be  prohibited.    Currently  in                                                               
Alaska, the defense attorney can get  a copy of the evidence, and                                                               
in a case involving child  pornography, this means that the child                                                               
pornography  gets  copied  and given  to  the  defense  attorney,                                                               
without limitation, regardless  that it is a  crime to distribute                                                               
child pornography,  and this  is just  one more  victimization of                                                               
the  victim.    Under  Section  16,  the  defense  attorney,  the                                                               
defendant, and any  expert [the defense would use]  who wishes to                                                               
view the  child pornography  must go  to the  police and  view it                                                               
there so that it wouldn't again be being copied and distributed.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:02:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEREK  DeGRAAF,  Sergeant,   Supervisor,  Technical  Crimes  Unit                                                               
(TCU), Alaska  Bureau of Investigation (ABI),  Division of Alaska                                                               
State Troopers,  Department of Public Safety  (DPS), relayed that                                                               
the  TCU's primary  responsibility involves  examining electronic                                                               
evidence submitted by Alaska's  various law enforcement agencies,                                                               
and  conducting proactive  investigations of  suspects in  Alaska                                                               
who  share/distribute  child  pornography  -  typically  via  the                                                               
Internet;  that   the  TCU  is  co-located   with  the  [federal]                                                               
Immigration and  Customs Enforcement  (ICE) office  in Anchorage;                                                               
that  the  TCU  is  part of  Alaska's  regional  Internet  Crimes                                                               
Against Children  (ICAC) Task  Force; and  that the  TCU partners                                                               
with  federal  agencies and  local  law  enforcement agencies  to                                                               
combat child exploitation.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DeGRAAF,  with  regard to  the  earlier  question  regarding                                                               
[Section 5  and] bookmarking child pornography,  explained that a                                                               
bookmarked  Internet  site  serves   as  a  pointer  and  doesn't                                                               
actually place any  material on the computer.   However, with the                                                               
use of certain  settings or without the use  of certain software,                                                               
images from  an Internet  site are  cached on  the computer  in a                                                               
temporary  Internet  file;  in  other  words,  those  images  are                                                               
"saved" to the computer -  typically without the knowledge of the                                                               
computer user  - and  can then be  recovered during  the forensic                                                               
investigation of  the computer.   In response  to a  question, he                                                               
said that although  there are various forms  of software designed                                                               
to erase  a computer  user's tracks on  the Internet,  they don't                                                               
always work  as advertized, and  so the law enforcement  is still                                                               
able to recover the data.   Furthermore, such tools are not often                                                               
used [effectively] by those seeking child pornography.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO -  referring  to  the proposed  aggravating                                                               
factor   in  Section   14  pertaining   to   dating  and   sexual                                                               
relationships,  and noting  that young  people don't  seem to  be                                                               
using the  term "date"  anymore -  questioned whether  using that                                                               
terminology in the bill is sufficient.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DeGRAAF  declined to  speculate.    In response  to  another                                                               
question [regarding  Section 5],  he explained that  file sharing                                                               
software is now  the number one way of  sharing child pornography                                                               
throughout  the world,  and that  this same  technology is  being                                                               
used to  track suspects,  because even  when suspects  attempt to                                                               
erase their  tracks, other software  on the computer can  be used                                                               
to show that they were  accessing child pornography.  In response                                                               
to  comments and  a question,  he  said that  law enforcement  is                                                               
targeting cases wherein the victims  are infants and prepubescent                                                               
children who are being sexually  violated in movies, in pictures,                                                               
and  in training  materials designed  to show  other perpetrators                                                               
how to sexually abuse children without getting caught.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES  asked how much child  pornography is being                                                               
created in Alaska.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. DeGRAAF indicated  that some is being created  in Alaska, but                                                               
law enforcement doesn't have any  statistics yet.  He pointed out                                                               
that in  child pornography  cases, the much  greater evil  is the                                                               
sexual abuse of the child  that's occurring while the pornography                                                               
is being  made.  He  added, "All the images  that we are  able to                                                               
obtain through our  examinations are sent to  the National Center                                                               
for Missing &  Exploited Children [NCMEC], and  they can actually                                                               
tell us  who a lot of  these kids are,  and most of them  are not                                                               
from Alaska."   In response to a question, he  indicated that the                                                               
ICAC  Task Force  in Alaska  is aware  of and  supportive of  the                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:15:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN questioned  how someone conducting legitimate                                                               
research   on  child   pornography   would   be  protected   from                                                               
prosecution.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DeGRAAF  offered  his  understanding   that  there  is  some                                                               
protection for  researchers, and that they  would coordinate with                                                               
federal  law enforcement  agencies  and couldn't  engage in  file                                                               
sharing.   In  response to  another  question, he  said the  bill                                                               
doesn't address this issue.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI,  in response to  a question regarding  Section 12,                                                               
explained  that  the proposed  new  conditions  of probation  are                                                               
discretionary,  not  mandatory, and  are  just  another tool  the                                                               
courts  can  use   to  help  combat  recidivism.     In  general,                                                               
conditions  of  probation  must be  reasonable,  related  to  the                                                               
crime, and  make sense under  the circumstances.  In  response to                                                               
questions  regarding  Section  14's proposed  aggravating  factor                                                               
pertaining to the crime of sexual  abuse of a minor in the second                                                               
degree, she  explained that most of  the sexual abuse of  a minor                                                               
crimes involve an age difference  between the perpetrator and the                                                               
victim;  that  which  of  those  crimes  certain  behavior  would                                                               
constitute  depends on  many factors  such as  when the  case was                                                               
referred to  law enforcement,  how old  the perpetrator  was, how                                                               
old  the  victim was,  and  the  progression  and length  of  the                                                               
victimization; that currently there  is no statute of limitations                                                               
for sexual  abuse of a minor  crimes; that the age  thresholds in                                                               
those  crimes   progress;  that   a  subsequent  change   in  the                                                               
perpetrator's  age  won't  necessarily result  in  him/her  being                                                               
charged differently;  and that the statutes  pertaining to sexual                                                               
abuse of a minor crimes are gender neutral.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI, in  response to  comments and  questions, pointed                                                               
out  that HB  298 focuses  on sexual  offenses -  including those                                                               
pertaining to  child pornography - and  is just one of  the steps                                                               
the administration  is taking  to address  the problem  of sexual                                                               
assault and domestic violence (DV) in Alaska.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:30:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  referred to  Section 3, and  noted that                                                               
the  language  in  proposed AS  11.56.840(b)  specifies  that  no                                                               
culpable mental  state is  required for the  crime of  failure to                                                               
register  as a  sex  offender  or child  kidnapper,  and yet  the                                                               
language  in proposed  AS 11.56.840(a)(2)  appears  to require  a                                                               
mens  rea  of knowing.    Should  subsection  (b) be  amended  to                                                               
clarify  that no  culpable  mental state  is  required except  as                                                               
provided in subsection (a)(2)?                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI   offered  her  understanding  that   the  current                                                               
language is  intended to  mean that  "that particular  element of                                                               
the  offense  does not  require  a  specific, separate,  culpable                                                               
mental state."   She observed that if the  current language isn't                                                               
clear  on that  point,  then further  clarification  would be  in                                                               
order.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  agreed to work  on that point.   Noting                                                               
that a  violation of  proposed AS  11.56.840 would  be a  class A                                                               
misdemeanor,  which  has a  maximum  one-year  jail sentence,  he                                                               
asked   whether  a   strict  malum   in  se   offense  would   be                                                               
constitutionally  problematic  if  the  perpetrator  served  that                                                               
entire year,  since no  mens rea  would be  required for  such an                                                               
offense.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI explained  that whenever a crime  doesn't require a                                                               
culpable mental  state, the legislature must  clarify that that's                                                               
the  intent, and  this  provision does  that.   Furthermore,  the                                                               
crime  of  failure  to  register  as  a  sex  offender  or  child                                                               
kidnapper in  the second  degree is  not a  malum in  se offense,                                                               
either under  the bill  or current law,  because the  State still                                                               
has to prove that the defendant knew he/she had to register.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG   posited  that  once  that   point  is                                                               
clarified, no  further legal  discussion on  the issue  need take                                                               
place.   He then referred  to Section  15, and asked  whether the                                                               
language in  proposed AS 12.63.100(6)(D)  should be  altered such                                                               
that it also refers to foreign jurisdictions.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:35:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI again indicated that  she would research that issue                                                               
further.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG again asked  whether the bill also ought                                                               
to amend existing  AS 12.63.030(a) such that  when the department                                                               
notifies the Federal Bureau of  Investigation (FBI) and the state                                                               
a  [registered] sex  offender or  child kidnapper  is moving  to,                                                               
that the department also notify the local political subdivision.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI  offered  her  understanding  that  currently  the                                                               
department   notifies  the   State   registry,   which  is   then                                                               
responsible for notifying other entities.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS  surmised that  there  could  be difficulties  with                                                               
requiring  notification of  local  political  subdivisions.   For                                                               
example, if an offender were  moving to the Fairbanks area, would                                                               
notice have to be given to  the Fairbanks North Star Borough, the                                                               
City of Fairbanks, or the City of North Pole?                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:36:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLMES referred  to  Section  3, specifically  to                                                               
proposed AS 11.56.840(c)(2),  and noted that in order  to use the                                                               
affirmative  defense   provided  for   in  subsection   (c),  the                                                               
perpetrator is  required to  have contacted  the DPS  both orally                                                               
and in writing.   She asked whether the term,  "orally" is really                                                               
necessary.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  explained that this  provision would apply  to sex                                                               
offenders who have not met  their obligations to register, and so                                                               
it is important for such people  to let the department know right                                                               
away when they move, and a  letter can sometimes take a long time                                                               
to  get where  it's  sent,  whereas a  telephone  call is  pretty                                                               
immediate.    She  indicated  that   she  would  be  amenable  to                                                               
researching this issue further.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLMES  referred  to Section  7,  and  questioned                                                               
whether the affirmative defense therein  could be used by someone                                                               
who  intentionally   downloads  child  pornography   but  doesn't                                                               
download more than three images.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI   acknowledged  that  point,   suggested  possibly                                                               
deleting the  word, "accessed", and  agreed to work on  the issue                                                               
further.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:40:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES referred  to Section 16, and  asked how its                                                               
proposed  court  rule amendment  would  work,  and how  it  would                                                               
affect defense counsel's ability to represent clients.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI noted  that [the Public Defender  Agency (PDA)] has                                                               
relayed  that it  would  make things  more  difficult.   However,                                                               
regardless  that  defense counsel  would  no  longer be  able  to                                                               
simply  mail  child pornography  to  expert  witnesses, it  would                                                               
allow everyone to comply with  federal law.  Such material should                                                               
not be  copied [and  distributed], but it  must be  available for                                                               
inspection.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN referred  to  Section 8,  and  asked why  AS                                                               
11.61.128(a) uses  the term, "female  breast".  Why not  just use                                                               
the term,  "breast"?  Why specify  the gender?  Lewd  touching is                                                               
lewd touching regardless of gender, he opined.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI  acknowledged  that   point,  but  explained  that                                                               
Alaska's statutes  pertaining to sexual assault  and sexual abuse                                                               
of  a minor  crimes have  always made  the distinction  between a                                                               
female breast and  a male breast, and so if  the language were to                                                               
be changed in  the bill, it would  require significant conforming                                                               
changes  throughout those  statutes.   In  response to  questions                                                               
regarding the  potential effects  of HB  298, she  proffered that                                                               
[among  other things],  making  the  prosecution of  sex-offender                                                               
registrants who don't  live up to their  obligations clearer will                                                               
help  the department  keep the  registry current  so that  people                                                               
will  know  where  sex  offenders   are  living;  that  requiring                                                               
offenders  from other  jurisdictions  to register  in Alaska,  if                                                               
they are required to register  in another jurisdiction, will make                                                               
a  huge   difference  in  protecting  people   because  offenders                                                               
shopping  around  for  a  "safe"   state  to  move  to  would  be                                                               
discouraged from  moving to Alaska;  and that it could  result in                                                               
the  prosecution  of  more  cases  involving  offensive  physical                                                               
contact when the state can't prove a lack of consent.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI, in response to further questions, said:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     I  think  sexual assault  and  abuse  in our  state  is                                                                    
     pervasive.   It's a hugely complicated  problem, and we                                                                    
     don't have a  silver bullet to say that  "this" is what                                                                    
     we need to fix  the problem.  We do what  we can and we                                                                    
     do what creative  people suggest to us,  but nobody has                                                                    
     come to me  and said, "Please write ...  a statute that                                                                    
     will forbid  sexual assault and  abuse and  ... protect                                                                    
     our children."  We ... do what we can.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:49:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO  referred  to  Section  4,  and  questioned                                                               
whether  the term  "buttocks" ought  to be  added to  proposed AS                                                               
11.61.118(a)(2).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI offered  her understanding  that  the behavior  of                                                               
offensively  touching   another  person's  buttocks   is  already                                                               
addressed in [AS  11.61.120] - harassment in the  second degree -                                                               
but acknowledged  that that  term could be  added to  proposed AS                                                               
11.61.118(a)(2).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GATTO  questioned   whether   under  the   term,                                                               
"computer", the committee ought  to address other technology that                                                               
has Internet capacity.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI  offered her  belief  that  such technology  would                                                               
already fall under the definition  of "computer".  In response to                                                               
a  comment, she  indicated  that [for  purposes  of the  statutes                                                               
related to child pornography] the  computer has to have a screen.                                                               
In  response  to  another  question   regarding  Section  4,  she                                                               
explained that the  harassment statutes don't have  the same flaw                                                               
regarding a lack of consent  that the sexual assault statutes do,                                                               
and  indicated  that  other   forthcoming  legislation  would  be                                                               
addressing that point further.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:52:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DWAYNE PEEPLES,  Deputy Commissioner, Office of  the Commissioner                                                               
- Juneau, Department  of Corrections (DOC), relayed  that the DOC                                                               
has  submitted   a  fiscal  note   based  on  past   and  current                                                               
convictions,  and estimates  provided by  the DOL,  but had  some                                                               
difficulty  quantifying  the potential  effects  of  some of  the                                                               
bill's sections,  and so  intends to monitor  them once  they are                                                               
enacted.  The DOC can't predict  how many people will be affected                                                               
by  HB 298,  particularly the  provisions related  to aggravating                                                               
factors.   In response  to questions  and comments,  he concurred                                                               
that the fiscal note estimates a  cost of [$136,900] in 2012, and                                                               
explained that  the statewide average  cost of  incarceration per                                                               
person per  day is approximately $126,  that page 2 of  the DOC's                                                               
fiscal note  provides information specific to  the bill's various                                                               
sections,  and that  the  estimated  convictions/sentences are  a                                                               
gross aggregate.   For example, with regard to  just two sections                                                               
of  the  bill, Section  3  is  estimated  to generate  three  new                                                               
convictions per year with an  average sentence of two months, and                                                               
Section 4 is estimated to  generate eighteen convictions per year                                                               
with an average of sentence of thirty days.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES  commented on the DOC's  fiscal note's lack                                                               
of  specific  estimates for  most  of  the bill's  sections,  and                                                               
suggested that the  other departments work more  closely with the                                                               
DOC to provide  it with the information it needs  to generate its                                                               
estimates.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS  expressed dissatisfaction  with the  bill's limited                                                               
scope and fiscal impact.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:58:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG questioned  whether  the term  "another                                                               
jurisdiction" as  used in Section  15 is intended to  define that                                                               
same term as used in Section 11.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  said no.   Taking the term "substantially"  out of                                                               
proposed  AS 12.55.085(f)  via  Section 11  is  meant to  address                                                               
litigation  issues   raised  with  regard  to   what  constitutes                                                               
"substantially similar"  in terms  of presumptive  sentencing and                                                               
criminal laws that place significance  on other offenses in other                                                               
jurisdictions, and  when such is  the case, using just  the term,                                                               
"similar"  results  in  a more  common-sense  comparison  between                                                               
criminal  laws in  Alaska and  those  of other  states, and  this                                                               
change has already been made  to some of Alaska's other statutes,                                                               
but not  yet to AS  12.55.085(f).   [With regard to  Section 15,]                                                               
given the  fact that many sex  offenders in other states  do have                                                               
to register for their crimes  in those states but currently don't                                                               
have  to in  Alaska because  those crimes  are not  substantially                                                               
similar to  Alaska's, the  DOL would prefer  that such  people be                                                               
required to register in Alaska when  they move here, and the bill                                                               
would effect just such a change.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG asked  what  the policy  reason is  for                                                               
requiring  someone  who  has  to register  in  another  state  to                                                               
register in Alaska when the  underlying behavior isn't a crime in                                                               
Alaska.   In response to a  request, he agreed to  wait until the                                                               
bill's next hearing to pursue this issue further.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS   characterized  HB   298  as   a  good   piece  of                                                               
legislation, but again commented on its limited scope.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[HB 298 was held over.]                                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
2 HB298 Sectional.pdf HJUD 1/25/2010 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 1/27/2010 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 2/1/2010 1:00:00 PM
HB 298
3 HB298 version A.pdf HJUD 1/25/2010 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 1/27/2010 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 2/1/2010 1:00:00 PM
HB 298
4 HB298 CTS Fiscal Note.pdf HJUD 1/25/2010 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 1/27/2010 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 2/1/2010 1:00:00 PM
HB 298
1 HB298 HJUD Hearing Request.pdf HJUD 1/25/2010 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 1/27/2010 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 2/1/2010 1:00:00 PM
HB 298
5 HB298 DOC Fiscal Note.pdf HJUD 1/25/2010 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 1/27/2010 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 2/1/2010 1:00:00 PM
HB 298
6 HB298 PDA Fiscal Note.pdf HJUD 1/25/2010 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 1/27/2010 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 2/1/2010 1:00:00 PM
HB 298
7 HB298 LAW Fiscal Note.pdf HJUD 1/25/2010 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 1/27/2010 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 2/1/2010 1:00:00 PM
HB 298
8 HB298-DPS Fiscal Note.pdf HJUD 1/25/2010 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 1/27/2010 1:00:00 PM
HB 298